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		<title>By: René</title>
		<link>http://thepauperedchef.com/2007/04/how_slow_can_yo.html/comment-page-1#comment-22193</link>
		<dc:creator>René</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read an article by Heston using the same method to cook a turkey. The key difference being he cut off the legs and wings prior to cooking, so they could be used for making a side dish of sausage. With no legs or wings, the bird should be much easier to brown in a pan after the initial cooking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read an article by Heston using the same method to cook a turkey. The key difference being he cut off the legs and wings prior to cooking, so they could be used for making a side dish of sausage. With no legs or wings, the bird should be much easier to brown in a pan after the initial cooking.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian</title>
		<link>http://thepauperedchef.com/2007/04/how_slow_can_yo.html/comment-page-1#comment-4229</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 18:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried this recipe from Heston&#039;s book as well. It was the best roast chicken I&#039;ve ever had, but I had a few problems along the way...

My biggest issue was that the core temperature didn&#039;t hit &quot;cooked&quot; until 8hrs after it was supposed to be on the table. So we ended up having roast chicken for breakfast ;)

The skin on mine turned out quite nicely, but I managed to squish my finger in the tongs while doing so.

I&#039;ve been looking the crock pot for sous-vide, the temperature on mine is about right on low; but I&#039;m not convinced the temperature is stable enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried this recipe from Heston&#8217;s book as well. It was the best roast chicken I&#8217;ve ever had, but I had a few problems along the way&#8230;</p>
<p>My biggest issue was that the core temperature didn&#8217;t hit &#8220;cooked&#8221; until 8hrs after it was supposed to be on the table. So we ended up having roast chicken for breakfast <img src='http://thepauperedchef.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The skin on mine turned out quite nicely, but I managed to squish my finger in the tongs while doing so.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been looking the crock pot for sous-vide, the temperature on mine is about right on low; but I&#8217;m not convinced the temperature is stable enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://thepauperedchef.com/2007/04/how_slow_can_yo.html/comment-page-1#comment-3918</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 14:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CORRECTION***

    I am trying pork ribs - boiled them about 5 minutes and then put into crockpot on LOW with BBQ sauce. After temperature climbed back above 140 F, I have turned crockpot to warm…. we’ll see.

    BTW, 5 minutes boiling may be way too much as the meat became rigid after that time. And I would think the ideas is to keep the meat flexible and tender.</description>
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<p>    I am trying pork ribs &#8211; boiled them about 5 minutes and then put into crockpot on LOW with BBQ sauce. After temperature climbed back above 140 F, I have turned crockpot to warm…. we’ll see.</p>
<p>    BTW, 5 minutes boiling may be way too much as the meat became rigid after that time. And I would think the ideas is to keep the meat flexible and tender.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://thepauperedchef.com/2007/04/how_slow_can_yo.html/comment-page-1#comment-3917</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 14:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am trying pork ribs - boiled them about 5 minutes and then put into crockpot on warm with BBQ sauce. After temperature climbed back above 140 F, I have turned crockpot to warm.... we&#039;ll see.

BTW, 5 minutes boiling may be way too much as the meat became rigid after that time. And I would think the ideas is to keep the meat flexible and tender.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am trying pork ribs &#8211; boiled them about 5 minutes and then put into crockpot on warm with BBQ sauce. After temperature climbed back above 140 F, I have turned crockpot to warm&#8230;. we&#8217;ll see.</p>
<p>BTW, 5 minutes boiling may be way too much as the meat became rigid after that time. And I would think the ideas is to keep the meat flexible and tender.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Kindelsperger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Kindelsperger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 22:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy Mayeshiba:  I understand the concern.  I think I was a little reckless when I did this post years ago.  Heston recommends boiling the chicken for about 30 seconds to kill anything that could potentially be a probably and then cooking.  I didn&#039;t have a pot big enough to do this, so I left it out.  But now I&#039;ve added this to the instructions to make the whole thing a little more sanitary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy Mayeshiba:  I understand the concern.  I think I was a little reckless when I did this post years ago.  Heston recommends boiling the chicken for about 30 seconds to kill anything that could potentially be a probably and then cooking.  I didn&#8217;t have a pot big enough to do this, so I left it out.  But now I&#8217;ve added this to the instructions to make the whole thing a little more sanitary.</p>
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		<title>By: MegLG</title>
		<link>http://thepauperedchef.com/2007/04/how_slow_can_yo.html/comment-page-1#comment-2808</link>
		<dc:creator>MegLG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 15:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve recently begun playing with slow roasting and came across this website during my hunt to learn if I&#039;m crazy for doing this to chicken.

The thought came to me that my cavernous oven was wasted on putting one thing into it at a time. So with a future pulled pork delight tucked into the  soapstone pot within, I placed two seasoned (but unbrined) whole chickens (breast side down) onto a rack and roasting pan, added a little stock and leftover wine into the bottom of the pan and let everything alone at 250 for about, I don&#039;t know, two hours. Opened the oven, turned the chickens breast sides up and closed the oven. Left everything alone again for, I don&#039;t know, another hour or two. The meat thermometer leapt to 180 without hesitation, so I am confident (and a few attempts have shown so far, knock wood) that there were no bacteria issues.

Yes, the chickens were not roasty-golden. But they were tender, juicy and delicious.

This is my favorite part of the process: Once cooled sufficiently, I left one chicken whole, cut the other into parts, wrapped pieces well with wax paper, put the pieces into a suitable plastic bin with an old, clean dish towel on the bottom (to absorb excess moisture in the freezer compartment and protect against freezer burn), and froze it all. (Pulled pork, come to mama.)

Instead of buying, freezing, thawing raw chicken (thinking ahead, planning ahead, doing ahead, standing over the stove to brown this and roast that), I pull suitable parts from the freeze to use for pizzas, tacos, chicken salads, chicken with pasta in cream sauce, chicken and mushrooms Provencal (run it under the broiler for a moment before serving until golden), chicken this, chicken that. Company&#039;s coming? I&#039;m ready.

&quot;Green&quot; use of the oven, I don&#039;t know. Hours on a low temp is still hours of fuel use. But it is green that many multiple meals are being prepared at once. Green use of time, as something that be quickly pulled together on a whim. Green use of finances: bought on sale and fewer trips for take-out.

-- Thanks for the platform!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve recently begun playing with slow roasting and came across this website during my hunt to learn if I&#8217;m crazy for doing this to chicken.</p>
<p>The thought came to me that my cavernous oven was wasted on putting one thing into it at a time. So with a future pulled pork delight tucked into the  soapstone pot within, I placed two seasoned (but unbrined) whole chickens (breast side down) onto a rack and roasting pan, added a little stock and leftover wine into the bottom of the pan and let everything alone at 250 for about, I don&#8217;t know, two hours. Opened the oven, turned the chickens breast sides up and closed the oven. Left everything alone again for, I don&#8217;t know, another hour or two. The meat thermometer leapt to 180 without hesitation, so I am confident (and a few attempts have shown so far, knock wood) that there were no bacteria issues.</p>
<p>Yes, the chickens were not roasty-golden. But they were tender, juicy and delicious.</p>
<p>This is my favorite part of the process: Once cooled sufficiently, I left one chicken whole, cut the other into parts, wrapped pieces well with wax paper, put the pieces into a suitable plastic bin with an old, clean dish towel on the bottom (to absorb excess moisture in the freezer compartment and protect against freezer burn), and froze it all. (Pulled pork, come to mama.)</p>
<p>Instead of buying, freezing, thawing raw chicken (thinking ahead, planning ahead, doing ahead, standing over the stove to brown this and roast that), I pull suitable parts from the freeze to use for pizzas, tacos, chicken salads, chicken with pasta in cream sauce, chicken and mushrooms Provencal (run it under the broiler for a moment before serving until golden), chicken this, chicken that. Company&#8217;s coming? I&#8217;m ready.</p>
<p>&#8220;Green&#8221; use of the oven, I don&#8217;t know. Hours on a low temp is still hours of fuel use. But it is green that many multiple meals are being prepared at once. Green use of time, as something that be quickly pulled together on a whim. Green use of finances: bought on sale and fewer trips for take-out.</p>
<p>&#8211; Thanks for the platform!</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Mayeshiba</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Mayeshiba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 21:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am SUPER concerned about the food safety issue that this procedure creates, since the cooking time is only enough to get the product UP TO 140F.  According to USDA guidelines,  you need  to HOLD the product at that this temperature for a LONG time once it has HIT 140F.  This is the basis of the 72 hour short ribs popularized by chefs like Michel Richard.

However, what I DO NOT know is whether the brining process will help to make the chicken more &quot;food safe&quot; by chemically killing the &quot;bad guys&quot; what would otherwise get you sick.  Does anyone have any expert information about this?  If I find anything I&#039;ll let you know.

Either way, brining will definitely give a better flavor to the bird and you&#039;ll get a &quot;better&quot; (subjective) texture in the finished product.  

Anyone try a vacuum-marinading machine?  They are not that expensive and work really well, even the home models!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am SUPER concerned about the food safety issue that this procedure creates, since the cooking time is only enough to get the product UP TO 140F.  According to USDA guidelines,  you need  to HOLD the product at that this temperature for a LONG time once it has HIT 140F.  This is the basis of the 72 hour short ribs popularized by chefs like Michel Richard.</p>
<p>However, what I DO NOT know is whether the brining process will help to make the chicken more &#8220;food safe&#8221; by chemically killing the &#8220;bad guys&#8221; what would otherwise get you sick.  Does anyone have any expert information about this?  If I find anything I&#8217;ll let you know.</p>
<p>Either way, brining will definitely give a better flavor to the bird and you&#8217;ll get a &#8220;better&#8221; (subjective) texture in the finished product.  </p>
<p>Anyone try a vacuum-marinading machine?  They are not that expensive and work really well, even the home models!</p>
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		<title>By: L Mars</title>
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		<dc:creator>L Mars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 17:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;To crisp the skin, place it on a hot BBQ grill for less than 5 minutes.  Beats blowtorch, or grease fires/burns&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To crisp the skin, place it on a hot BBQ grill for less than 5 minutes.  Beats blowtorch, or grease fires/burns</p>
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		<title>By: gdaymate</title>
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		<dc:creator>gdaymate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 00:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;All these things sounds so long to me when usually by the time the chicken is done roasting I&#039;m salivating and not in the mood to do more work than whipping up a nice sauce from the drippings. What if you remove the wishbone before roasting and loosen leg joints : after the 170 degree roast described by MJR pull out the bird, rev up the broiler to defcon five and while its getting hot butterfly the chicken skin side up obviously. Put it under the heat scary close and watch how long till it browns. I know this might sound sacrilege but doesnt cornstarch make things crispy ? Could you make a melted butter/cornstarch  basting liquid, baste it quick THEN put it under the broiler? Quick brown crunch? I&#039;m going to try it.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All these things sounds so long to me when usually by the time the chicken is done roasting I&#39;m salivating and not in the mood to do more work than whipping up a nice sauce from the drippings. What if you remove the wishbone before roasting and loosen leg joints : after the 170 degree roast described by MJR pull out the bird, rev up the broiler to defcon five and while its getting hot butterfly the chicken skin side up obviously. Put it under the heat scary close and watch how long till it browns. I know this might sound sacrilege but doesnt cornstarch make things crispy ? Could you make a melted butter/cornstarch  basting liquid, baste it quick THEN put it under the broiler? Quick brown crunch? I&#39;m going to try it.</p>
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		<title>By: crandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>crandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This is a cool idea - i&#039;ll try this but before i place the bird in the crock i&#039;ll butterfly the chicken, removing the back bone and the breast bone.  when it comes out of the crock, parting a butterflied bird into 4 pieces (2 breast/wing combos and 2 thigh/leg combos) is easy.  from there, just place them on a sheet pan under the broiler for 2 minutes and they&#039;ll brown up perfectly...&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a cool idea &#8211; i&#39;ll try this but before i place the bird in the crock i&#39;ll butterfly the chicken, removing the back bone and the breast bone.  when it comes out of the crock, parting a butterflied bird into 4 pieces (2 breast/wing combos and 2 thigh/leg combos) is easy.  from there, just place them on a sheet pan under the broiler for 2 minutes and they&#39;ll brown up perfectly&#8230;</p>
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