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		<title>By: tina paredes</title>
		<link>http://thepauperedchef.com/2009/03/tamales.html/comment-page-1#comment-19003</link>
		<dc:creator>tina paredes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 17:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i need to know how long the tamales can stay in the freezer please</description>
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		<title>By: Leah A. Zeldes</title>
		<link>http://thepauperedchef.com/2009/03/tamales.html/comment-page-1#comment-7400</link>
		<dc:creator>Leah A. Zeldes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 17:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean -- There is plenty of excellent sweet corn grown in Illinois and other Midwestern states.

Tamales are widely produced in areas like Chicago with a big Mexican population. In the 1920s and &#039;30s, there were a lot of African-Americans selling tamales, too. I&#039;m not sure when or why that practice died out here -- it still happens in the Mississippi Delta.

Chicago is the principal home of the paper-wrapped &quot;corn-roll&quot; tamale, which is nothing like these and sold at hot dogs across the city.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean &#8212; There is plenty of excellent sweet corn grown in Illinois and other Midwestern states.</p>
<p>Tamales are widely produced in areas like Chicago with a big Mexican population. In the 1920s and &#8217;30s, there were a lot of African-Americans selling tamales, too. I&#8217;m not sure when or why that practice died out here &#8212; it still happens in the Mississippi Delta.</p>
<p>Chicago is the principal home of the paper-wrapped &#8220;corn-roll&#8221; tamale, which is nothing like these and sold at hot dogs across the city.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 20:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Cool article, but, YOU DID MISS SOMETHING!!! :)
The reason the midwest wouldn&#039;t make a dish which centered on corn, is because the corn that is grown in the midwest is GMO-crap that is not actually tasty because it is designed principally to be used in the feed for the cheap-beef (effectively govt subsidized) cattle industry, or for the production of corn syrup, the ubiquitous sweetener of choice for 40-plus years.  Do a little research.  Watch the movie &quot;King Corn&quot; for a thoroughly upsetting exposé.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Cool article, but, YOU DID MISS SOMETHING!!! <img src='http://thepauperedchef.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
The reason the midwest wouldn&#8217;t make a dish which centered on corn, is because the corn that is grown in the midwest is GMO-crap that is not actually tasty because it is designed principally to be used in the feed for the cheap-beef (effectively govt subsidized) cattle industry, or for the production of corn syrup, the ubiquitous sweetener of choice for 40-plus years.  Do a little research.  Watch the movie &#8220;King Corn&#8221; for a thoroughly upsetting exposé.</p>
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		<title>By: Jumper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jumper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 13:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ross&#039;s excellent suggestion of chicken fat.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;To follow up his 101 on fat, back before refrigeration, saturated fats  have always resisted oxidation (rancidity) more than many plant oils. Notice how the 7/8 empty jar of neglected vegetable oils will acquire a nasty smell which is oxidation. Lard lasts a long time even stored wrapped in paper if in a reasonable cool spot. Also famous for high resistance to oxidation are the cocoa butter and palm oils. I&#039;m under the impression that for some reason beef tallow does not last as long as lard. And I don&#039;t know the relative shelf-life of unrefrigerated schmaltz compared to those. But we do have freezers and refrigerators nowadays. &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ross&#39;s excellent suggestion of chicken fat.</p>
<p>To follow up his 101 on fat, back before refrigeration, saturated fats  have always resisted oxidation (rancidity) more than many plant oils. Notice how the 7/8 empty jar of neglected vegetable oils will acquire a nasty smell which is oxidation. Lard lasts a long time even stored wrapped in paper if in a reasonable cool spot. Also famous for high resistance to oxidation are the cocoa butter and palm oils. I&#39;m under the impression that for some reason beef tallow does not last as long as lard. And I don&#39;t know the relative shelf-life of unrefrigerated schmaltz compared to those. But we do have freezers and refrigerators nowadays. </p>
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		<title>By: Jumper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jumper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 13:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well, that&#039;s just embarrassing. (My earlier comment linked to the wrong URL) The homemade masa post is here:&lt;br /&gt;
http://jumpersbloghouse.blogspot.com/2008/03/corny-story.html&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Everyone should keep in mind I&#039;m an amateur cook, but my tamales (after the lard almost killed me) now contain far less fat. A little bacon fat or canola oil works fine for me. The flavors of the tamales are so good I don&#039;t seem to need fat at all in them...&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, that&#39;s just embarrassing. (My earlier comment linked to the wrong URL) The homemade masa post is here:<br />
<a href="http://jumpersbloghouse.blogspot.com/2008/03/corny-story.html" rel="nofollow">http://jumpersbloghouse.blogspot.com/2008/03/corny-story.html</a></p>
<p>Everyone should keep in mind I&#39;m an amateur cook, but my tamales (after the lard almost killed me) now contain far less fat. A little bacon fat or canola oil works fine for me. The flavors of the tamales are so good I don&#39;t seem to need fat at all in them&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ross Donaldson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ross Donaldson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh man! Tamales! So much to say!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Nick: this was... an evocative post, sir. I&#039;m from New Mexico, originally -- tamales are taken pretty seriously down there. (Though we use chicken and red or green chile sauce, not usually tomatillo.) You&#039;ve made me very hungry, and a little nostalgic. In fact, you&#039;ve probably won me as a reader -- first post I read, too. Neat!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Ezzie: chemically, fats and oils differ primarily by the temperature at which they solidify (room temperature for fats, slighly lower for oils). You *shoud* be able to do a substitution, but I&#039;d go with good canola oil over olive oil or butter -- something a little more flavor-neutral. But, you know what might be extra-super-tasty? Schmaltz. I haven&#039;t poached a chicken in this manner yet, but when I make stock, or when I roast a chicken, I usually get a pretty generous amount of chicken fat, either in the pan or floating on the poaching liquid. It&#039;d certainly add an extra step and a little time, but if you let your poaching liquid cool and then refrigerate it, you&#039;ll likely find quite a layer of (solid, easy to manipulate) fat on top -- the schmaltz! I usually use mine to make biscuits with chicken gravy; I see no reason you couldn&#039;t use yours to augment the tamales. There might not be enough -- in which case, you&#039;re back to canola oil or Crisco. You&#039;ll likely get a different texture; I imagine Crisco would give something much more like the texture of whipped lard.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Happy cooking, and good luck! &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh man! Tamales! So much to say!</p>
<p>Nick: this was&#8230; an evocative post, sir. I&#39;m from New Mexico, originally &#8212; tamales are taken pretty seriously down there. (Though we use chicken and red or green chile sauce, not usually tomatillo.) You&#39;ve made me very hungry, and a little nostalgic. In fact, you&#39;ve probably won me as a reader &#8212; first post I read, too. Neat!</p>
<p>Ezzie: chemically, fats and oils differ primarily by the temperature at which they solidify (room temperature for fats, slighly lower for oils). You *shoud* be able to do a substitution, but I&#39;d go with good canola oil over olive oil or butter &#8212; something a little more flavor-neutral. But, you know what might be extra-super-tasty? Schmaltz. I haven&#39;t poached a chicken in this manner yet, but when I make stock, or when I roast a chicken, I usually get a pretty generous amount of chicken fat, either in the pan or floating on the poaching liquid. It&#39;d certainly add an extra step and a little time, but if you let your poaching liquid cool and then refrigerate it, you&#39;ll likely find quite a layer of (solid, easy to manipulate) fat on top &#8212; the schmaltz! I usually use mine to make biscuits with chicken gravy; I see no reason you couldn&#39;t use yours to augment the tamales. There might not be enough &#8212; in which case, you&#39;re back to canola oil or Crisco. You&#39;ll likely get a different texture; I imagine Crisco would give something much more like the texture of whipped lard.</p>
<p>Happy cooking, and good luck! </p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ezzie - I&#039;d say that if it&#039;s an issue with pork fat in particular, and not animal fats in general, then you&#039;d be best-off going with tallow, or even goose fat. I think it&#039;s important with the dough for tamales that you use a solid fat to cut into the masa; I imagine olive oil would make a runny mess.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ezzie &#8211; I&#39;d say that if it&#39;s an issue with pork fat in particular, and not animal fats in general, then you&#39;d be best-off going with tallow, or even goose fat. I think it&#39;s important with the dough for tamales that you use a solid fat to cut into the masa; I imagine olive oil would make a runny mess.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Kindelsperger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Kindelsperger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 14:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;David: I would go ahead and steam them and then toss them in the freezer.  At least, that&#039;s what I did.  I think it&#039;s best to get all the steaming out of the way.  Today I just tossed a couple in a pan along with just a tad more lard and cooked until they turned golden brown.  They were even better then before.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Ezzie: Yeah, about that lard.  There definitely is a lot.  Crisco seems the most similar, so it might work.  But I&#039;m not sure about butter and oil.  Let me know how yours end up. &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David: I would go ahead and steam them and then toss them in the freezer.  At least, that&#39;s what I did.  I think it&#39;s best to get all the steaming out of the way.  Today I just tossed a couple in a pan along with just a tad more lard and cooked until they turned golden brown.  They were even better then before.  </p>
<p>Ezzie: Yeah, about that lard.  There definitely is a lot.  Crisco seems the most similar, so it might work.  But I&#39;m not sure about butter and oil.  Let me know how yours end up. </p>
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		<title>By: Ezzie</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 10:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I too have been craving fresh tamales like we had when we were cruising the coast of Mexico for 9 months (this was a few years ago).  I have found a few small Mexican tiendas here in York, PA.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My only problem with your recipe is we don&#039;t eat pork at all, so no lard comes into the house.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So what would be a good alternative?  Crisco comes to mind, but even at that I shudder...I wonder if I could make it a combo of butter and olive oil?  I&#039;ll have to experiment.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the great instructions!  As usual your pics really add to it as well.   &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too have been craving fresh tamales like we had when we were cruising the coast of Mexico for 9 months (this was a few years ago).  I have found a few small Mexican tiendas here in York, PA.  </p>
<p>My only problem with your recipe is we don&#39;t eat pork at all, so no lard comes into the house.  </p>
<p>So what would be a good alternative?  Crisco comes to mind, but even at that I shudder&#8230;I wonder if I could make it a combo of butter and olive oil?  I&#39;ll have to experiment.  </p>
<p>Thanks for the great instructions!  As usual your pics really add to it as well.   </p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 09:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Nick,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Great post, thanks.  If I&#039;m going to make 32 tamales I see some going into the freezer.  Any idea on what is the best stage to freeze them at?  Before or after the final steaming?  Thanks.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Nick,</p>
<p>Great post, thanks.  If I&#39;m going to make 32 tamales I see some going into the freezer.  Any idea on what is the best stage to freeze them at?  Before or after the final steaming?  Thanks.</p>
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