North Carolina Barbecue: A Tale of Vinegar, Hush Puppies, and the Whole Hog

by Nick Kindelsperger on July 28, 2009

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After the fifth barbecue stop in North Carolina my brother-in-law and I were delirious. We stumbled out of the door of the last joint, nearly tripping over ourselves like a couple of drunk freshman.  I called my wife but when I attempted to speak the right words wouldn’t come out.  Sure my belly was full of pork, but it was something about the addition of coleslaw, hush puppies, and glass upon glass of sweet tea to the equation that produced some kind of odd chemical imbalance in my brain.  I was drunk on pork, and I giggled at the buzz. 

It surprised the hell out of me.  I thought I knew what North Carolina barbecue was before I ever set foot in the state.  I mean, just close your eyes and what do you see?  I figured I’d be eating a ton of pulled pork set on plain white buns topped with creamy coleslaw.  That's what I made from scratch all those years ago.  I knew the sauce would be vinegar-based, and I even knew that the western part of the state might add a little ketchup to that simple equation.  But that's really it.  And to be perfectly honest, I wasn't all that pumped for the drive.  Seriously, how good could 5 pulled pork sandwiches possibly be?

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Turns out I was wrong...about a lot of things.  When I ordered barbecue, the above picture is basically what I got every time.  Now, you can find pulled--those sandwiches do exist--but by an large it means a plate of chopped pork, hush puppies, and some coleslaw.  This turns out to be a very good thing.  To pull pork you need to cook it until 185 to 195 degrees.  But to chop it the internal temp need only reach about 165 to 180, leading to juicier hunks and also more fat.  It's...um...better than pulled pork. 

Where did our mission begin?  For help traversing the barbecue trail of North Carolina, I used Mike Mills and his daughter Amy Mills Tunnicliffe's Peace, Love, & Barbecue.  It's been my guide to all things barbecue for the past couple years, and it's never let me down.  Like my Memphis trip, I used their recommended Barbecue Shrines as the basis for my pilgrimage.  That included Lexington Barbecue, Stamey's, Allen and Son, and Wilber's Barbecue. I also got a tip on Twitter from Amy Mills that I needed to visit The Pit in Raleigh, so I added that to the list.

And so off we went to find out what North Carolina had to offer. 

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The first stop was Lexington Barbecue in Lexington, North Carolina, which also happens to be the proud purveyor of...wait for it...Lexington-style barbecue.  This style is sometimes considered synonmous with Western North Carolina Barbecue.  Though the stereotype is not 100% true, this style of barbecue tends to be whole pork shoulders served with a vinegary sauce spiked with a little ketchup.

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And that's certainly what arrived.  Lexington Barbecue more or less lived up to the expectation.  It was juicy and vinegary, and the sauce was nice and spicy.

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Though Lexington Style Barbeuce does have a little ketchup in their sauce, it looks and tastes nothing like the syrupy, sweet sauces I grew up with.  It was basically just a vinegar sauce with a touch of ketchup.  A little douse goes a long way.  Ketchup also makes its way into their famous red slaw.  And though it sounds completely unremarkable, the slaw was outstanding, and easily the best on the trip.

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As was their sweet tea, which when balanced with the lemon, was slightly tart, sweet, and bitter.  A perfect cup. 

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This was also my first encounter with hush puppies in years, and they were delicious.  It was a great stop, and if this place were in a three hour radius of Chicago, I'd think often about making the trek.  All I missed was the smoke, which I sadly couldn't detect at all.

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The next stop was Stamey’s, which is right in the middle of Greensboro.  It was early in the morning, and maybe my taste buds weren’t functioning at full stregth, but it seemed like a weaker version of Lexington Barbecue.  Nothing really jumped out at me. 

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The chopped pork was definitely juicy, and the slaw was fine.  But I was just concerned at this point that maybe North Carolina barbecue wasn't my favorite style.  I loved my time in Memphis, and even some of my haunts in Chicago.  Maybe all this thin sauce and meat without smoke was what they liked down here. 

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I'm not sure where exactly the dividing line between East and West is, but I felt the change as I pulled into Allen and Son in Chapel Hill.  I knew the building looked right.

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It typified more than any other place a roadside shack complete with gravel parking lot, weathered sign, and laid back dining experience.

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We ordered the barbecue plate, like we had at the other two stops, and what arrived looked slightly different. Each bite was a revelation.

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The slaw was crisp and cool, the sweet tea not too sweet, and hush puppies had a cripsy cornmeal outside, with creamy buttermilk laced innards.  Remarkable. 

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But it was the pork that floored us.  It was the first eureka moment of the trip, and one of the most delicious bites of barbecue I’ve ever tasted.  The chopped pork was less wet, and, for the first time, generously graced with hickory smoke.  The sauce had dispensed with ketchup, and was a perfect foil for the fatty meat.  It was the moment when I first grasped the allure of chopped pork. It wasn’t just the inside of the pork, but the crispy crust, too.  Every bit of the shoulder was chopped up and mixed together, giving each bite color variation.

Although their sauce was like the Eastern Style, they still only cooked pork shoulders. As I walked away I was convinced that I had reached perfection. How could these last two places come anywhere close?

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The Pit was the first barbecue restaurant I'd ever seen with Valet Parking.

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The Pit is a relatively new restaurant in Raleigh with a slick new design and absolutely none of the rustic charm of Allen and Son.  That's fine, because the brains and brawn behind the operation is Ed Mitchell, a legend of North Carolina barbecue, whose Mitchell's Barbecue was already a potential stop.  The restaurant may look new, but the cooking technique was hundreds of years old.  The Pit was also our first experience with the whole hog barbecue. Though Allen and Sons was a tentative step into Eastern North Carolina, we were now going to be tossed straight in.

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Eastern North Carolina style barbecue is far more than just vinegar based sauce. According to the traditionalists, barbecue is only barbecue when a whole hog is cooked over hard wood coals.  And according to this menu, the chopped barbecue is the Eastern North Carolina style. 

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Little bits of everything were chopped together and served with coleslaw, hush puppies, and, for the first time, a bowl of black eyed peas (awesome!) and a biscuit (fine).

To be honest, I was initially a tad disappointed by the lack of smoke in the meat.  But something else became apparent after a few bites.  It was chewier and the flavor lingered longer in the back of my mouth.  I couldn't place it at first, but after a few bites I realized that it simply had far more fat.  This whole hog approach meant that the mixture of fat to meat was much higher, and that made for an incredible piggy flavor which is utterly intoxicating.  The flavor is "porkier" and more well rounded.  The sauce is virtually non-existent, except for a subtle zing of acid at the end of each bite.  I didn't need to add any sauce at the table. 

By this point I was quite obviously full. The last stop was far off the interstate in the town of Goldsboro. It was hard to find, and a few times both Matt and I felt like skipping it. We didn't need the pork, and we couldn't fathom how it could top The Pit.

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We pulled into Wilber's Barbecue without an ounce of hunger between us.

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The hushpuppies were average, the coleslaw was overly chopped, and the sweet tea was just fair. They did add a bowl of decadent chicken gravy to the table, but I just wasn't in the mood for it.

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But the pork, a whole hog just like The Pit, was simply flawless.  It was fat and luscious like the Pit, but was laced with a wonderful tinge of Oak smoke.

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The sauce was even served in this gorgeous little glass container.  But the pork didn't need any help.  We tried our best, and though it was the best pork we had tasted on the trip, only managed to finish half.  The waitress packed up the rest for us and sent us on our way. 

Matt and I rolled into our car, sweating pork, and utterly convinced that we had just tasted hog heaven. Though I didn’t understand North Carolina barbecue when I first arrived, I had eaten my way through the state, and became quite taken with the style.  Hopelessly more complex than I had bargained for, the chopped pork also felt more honest.  Pork was the real star of the show, not the sauce or the cooking method.  It only needed a little bit of help to make it perfect.  As we drove away I clutched the small container of Wilber's pork close by, inhaling the fumes of perfect pork as we raced away in search of vegetables.

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Alaina Browne July 28, 2009 at 12:35 pm

Sounds like you did it up right! As a card-carrying NC Barbecue Society member, I’m glad to have another convert. :)

P.S. I recognized the Allen & Sons plate instantly.

Ed Levine July 28, 2009 at 3:26 pm

When I was in Chapel Hill a few weeks ago Allen and Son was closed for vacation. I was crushed.

jessicaM July 29, 2009 at 4:58 am

OMG, thanks for such a great review! My parents are from Eastern North Carolina, and I have always said that bbq isn’t bbq if it doesn’t come from East of Raleigh… I have been to some of the places you mentioned. I discovered Allen and Sons in grad school, and I grew up in Greensboro, so I know what it’s like to head over to Stamey’s when you’ve just gotta have some bbq, but you know that it’s not really gonna taste like what you wanted. Did you notice, BTW, their red coleslaw? That’s just a freak of nature…

I live in Italy now, and I only get my bbq fix once a year, but I am definitely going to check out some of the places on here that I’ve never been to…

Nick Kindelsperger July 29, 2009 at 2:38 pm

Alaina Browne: Yeah, it’s their hush puppies that give them away. They were so good I asked the waitress for the recipe, but she would budge. I don’t blame her. I’d go just for them.

Ed: You really missed something. Every time I look at the photo I can remember that smell.

jessicaM: I actually like the red coleslaw, especially at Lexington Barbecue. Sounds like it really shouldn’t work, but it’s surprisingly balanced.

Hopefully you can get back to NC soon. Good luck!

lexophile July 29, 2009 at 6:17 pm

So glad you finally got to do your dreamed of NC Q’trip. I am so jealous that you got to eat at Allen and Sons. Too bad the waitress wouldn’t give you the hushpuppy recipe. I’d make those at least once a week. They were unreal!

wunami July 30, 2009 at 10:55 am

Oh god…thanks for reminding me that I haven’t had hushpuppies for the longest time. :(

Nick Kindelsperger July 30, 2009 at 2:00 pm

lexophile: Yeah, I’ve talked about for so long. It was great to get down there and finally eat!

Wunami: I didn’t realize hush puppies could be such an extraordinary thing. Now I know. I want to make those from scratch.

Vickie August 3, 2009 at 3:41 pm

Glad you enjoyed our NC B-B-Q !
On your next visit try Bill’s in Wilson, NC.
If you want “smoke” & fat it’s B’s barbeque in Greenville, NC.

Daniel August 4, 2009 at 5:21 pm

What, no visit to Asheville, NC’s famous 12 Bones barbecue?

Dan
Casual Kitchen

Maggie August 4, 2009 at 7:10 pm

This was so much fun! But you *MUST* keep driving east … I wanted you to take this bbq tour all the way to the Outer Banks!

Chris August 4, 2009 at 8:13 pm

Great review! Here via serious eats!

I like my smoked butts to have a bit more of the hickory flavor and a nice bark, so I appreciated your search.

Did you happen to get any of the Lexington Red slaw? I’m curious about it and have a recipe but haven’t tried it.

Nick Kindelsperger August 4, 2009 at 8:51 pm

Vickie: I’m adding it to the list.

Daniel: Sadly no. But there is always next time.

Maggie: I definitely loved the Eastern Style the best, so I’m sure there were other places out there I missed. There was only so much pork I could fit in my belly.

Chris: I did love Lexington Red slaw! In fact, latter this week I’ll have a recipe up. You predicted my next post. I’ll also have recipes for many of the other sides I ate, too.

clay August 4, 2009 at 9:33 pm

I live in Greensboro and I stay away from Stamey’s despite its fame. Country Barbeque on Wendover Ave. is far superior in my opinion. I take all my guests there. Anyway love your site, love your writing, love this damn article.

bart August 4, 2009 at 11:05 pm

I love reading barbecue reviews, especially of my home-state’s products. Reading about your experience was interesting, and I’m sure you’ll get a lot of feedback from North Carolinians pitching their favorite joints. So I will too. ;)

My money is on Little Richard’s Lexington BBQ (in Winston-Salem, naturally). Smokey ‘cue, moist, plenty of “brown”, and the most crispy yet tender-inside hushpuppies I’ve tasted.

Interesting take on The Pit. Natives see it as a barbecue “themed” restaurant, and I can’t figure out why anyone would eat there when they can get authentic NC ‘cue elsewhere. Perhaps it’s a fine line that is blurring (or disappearing) as regional cooking and culture blend into the national melting pot.

MondoUNC August 5, 2009 at 12:10 am

I’ve been in Chapel Hill for 5 years now as a student at UNC. Allen & Son’s is a must (especially after Oprah mentioned it) but next time you come through you should swing by The Barbecue Joint, great food all around not just the barbecue. Pepper’s pizza on Franklin St. has a slice called “The Joint” that features their barbecue along with andouille sausage and feta cheese on a pesto sauce; one of my favorite slices of pizza ever.

grace August 5, 2009 at 3:51 am

my jealousy of you and your gluttonous experience knows no bounds. :)

linda August 5, 2009 at 8:59 am

what? no skylight inn?????

linda August 5, 2009 at 9:05 am

also, did you read any NC BBQ specific books before your trip? i.e. bob garner’s, holy smoke. might have given you a better focus on this state rather than peace, love & barbecue.

belmontmedina August 5, 2009 at 9:49 am

I have to say, that appears to be the Stameys over by the Colisuem, and I think the one on Battleground Avenue is much better. And I’d argue that Cheerwine is the second best match for BBQ, after sweet tea :)

Cat August 5, 2009 at 12:48 pm

Aw, man. I’m a Tar Heel living in Brooklyn, and you have made me seriously homesick. I grew up on Eastern NC barbecue – every fall, my grandpa smoked a whole hog and all his family and neighbors came for the pig pickin’. My hometown barbecue joint was Stamey’s, and I can tell you it’s long past its glory days. Clay’s right – Country BBQ on Wendover is where it’s at now. Holt Lake, in Smithfield, is another great place to try.

Nick Kindelsperger August 5, 2009 at 1:19 pm

clay: I had definitely heard about Country Barbecue and would have loved to have the time to stop. Alas, I chose Stamey’s because of its history, and not necessarily because it’s still considered the best.

bart: Little Richard’s sounds like its right up my alley. I love when a good bit of the brown pieces are mixed in. I went to the Pit because it was an Ed Mitchell project. I had wanted to visit the original Mitchells, but it was a little off the beaten path. Though it definitely is not your typical place, it was utterly delicious. They do it right.

MondoUNC: I could have spent a long time in Chapel Hill. I’m sure they have all kinds of delectable goodies around the area.

grace: Hope you get to indulge in some barbecue soon.

linda: I definitely saw the Holy Smoke book around at different joints. The book I used was more of an overview of the style, which a novice like me needed. But now I’m ready to dig in a little further, so I’ll definitely pick up Holy Smoke.

belmontmedina: You are right. I visited the one by the Colisuem because it opened earlier. I had so many places to visit that day I had to start as earlier as possible.

Cat: A whole hog roast would be a treat. Thanks for the other recommendations. I think I have another round planned already!

Leigh August 5, 2009 at 7:22 pm

I second Dan on the “What?! No stop at 12 Bones in Asheville?”

Perhaps it’s just because I live here in Asheville….we do have some damn fine ‘cue. 12 Bones, Okie Dokie’s, Ruby’s, Luella’s…

I encourage to come visit the western mountains and try it out sometime. :)

Terri August 6, 2009 at 7:42 am

While the bbq around Raleigh is ok, it doesn’t come anywhere close to what you will find further downeast. IMO Mitchell’s bbq you get at the pit has no flavor and is a disappointment compared to Bill’s in Wilson or Holt lake in Smithfield or for that matter any of the other gems scattered here and there east of Raleigh.

Nicole August 6, 2009 at 12:32 pm

If you ever do this trip again, I’d suggest stopping by Clyde Cooper’s in Raleigh. If for no reason other than the fact that they serve their hush puppies with house-made pork rinds.

Nick Kindelsperger August 6, 2009 at 1:08 pm

Leigh: I’ve been wanting to visit Asheville for many reasons besides barbecue. I only driven through, but I heard it’s a wonderful place. Having good barbecue only feeds the appeal for me…

Terri: My mind is starting to swell with the number of places I have visit. It’s a good problem to have, I suppose.

Nicole: Oh, don’t get me started on pork rinds. I bought a bag of them and just munched on them all week. The freshly made kind are better than chips.

Tony August 8, 2009 at 2:39 pm

Hey, I just stumbled on your blog via twitter. I really enjoyed this writeup on NC barbecue. I am a northerner myself, and since I moved to the South (Raleigh, NC), I have discovered a great love for the local bbq. It is my humble opinion that the best in NC barbecue can be found in Lexington. I agree with the above poster who said that Raleigh’s own The Pit can’t hold a candle to the bbq that is in the Winston Salem area. I think the Pit tries way too hard to make the bbq fine dining.

Alex Stanley August 8, 2009 at 11:58 pm

I have to agree with Clay. Having grown up in the area, Country BBQ is tops in Greensboro. In nearby High Point, there is Kepley’s. I find with both of these restaurants, the meat has a ton of flavor. For something different, in Charlotte, Old Hickory House has amazing beef brisket.
Thanks for the article.

Nick Kindelsperger August 11, 2009 at 1:34 pm

tony: I need to spend some more time in Lexington, that’s for sure.

Alex: Thanks for the recommendations.

Norine campbell August 11, 2009 at 2:46 pm

The best BBQ in NC is Pete’s BBQ in Ayden-Griften which is further east of Raliegh. They chop the pork on an oak stump. Simply the best!

jennifer August 13, 2009 at 4:27 pm

Being married to a man that dreams of being a pit master, I have had my fair share of NC barbeque, and one of the best I’ve had is at a place called Grady’s in Dudley, NC- just a cinder block building you wouldn’t think twice about driving right past. Delicious! A tough call between Grady’s and Allen and Sons…

felicepiserchia August 16, 2009 at 4:26 am

in the Triangle area, my money is on Clyde Cooper’s, their pig skins…. shoo girl.

alvnjms August 16, 2009 at 4:45 am

I’m happy you got to come to NC for a pork vision quest, it’s the walk from the restaurant to the car in the 90+ heat and humidity that brings on the vision, something that diners at the Pit will miss out on. As for the smoke at Wilbur’s, I’d venture it’s hickory…

alvnjms August 16, 2009 at 4:54 am

looking over the above posts, as a resident of Asheville that grew up in Eastern NC, I have to say 12 Bones is for folks that never venture down east. It’s cute, all those blueberry sauces and microbrew beer, but it lacks the backbone of traditional NC que. However, it’s good, in fact the best in WNC, and closer than Mocksville, the western most NC barbeque.

Beth September 2, 2009 at 4:29 pm

Nick, I salivated reading all the descriptions, and was waiting for a recipe at the end of your article. Isn’t there some way we can approximate NC barbeque in our kitchens here in the midwest??? (My mom is from NC and we always go to Ralph’s – I think it’s in Rocky Mount).

Tony September 4, 2009 at 10:18 am

Here is our take on the Pit and on what I consider to be the more superior BBQ place in Raleigh, Coopers:
http://rdugonnaeatthat.wordpress.com/2009/08/16/what-makes-good-bbq-in-raleigh-the-pit-versus-coopers/

the vlm September 18, 2009 at 12:13 pm

Welcome to the wonderful world of barbeque. And really, only Eastern NC barbeque can really be considered barbeque.

I’m glad you made it to Allen and Sons. One of the last of the old school, the man actually cuts and cures his own Hickory, and i think you can taste it in the meat. Also, the handcut fries are also a rarity for BBQ joints.

One thing you missed is banana pudding. It is the essential end to a true BBQ experience.

As a resident of Durham, NC there are a couple of other places I could name, but I think you got a good smattering of styles. I’ve been reluctant to go to the Pit due to it’s posh-ness and Raleigh-ness, but might give it a shot, just to see.

Of course, the best pig is always pulled right off the hog at a pig-picking.

rick October 7, 2009 at 9:07 pm

Nick, if you ever get back to Lexington order the “lean and brown sliced”. It’s not on the menu but it’s what I always get when I go through Lexington. Just something about the different texture and including the darkened outer meat makes it fantastic.

Charlie December 14, 2009 at 10:41 am

Glad you guys had a chance to enjoy some good NC ‘cue. Growing up in southeastern NC as a child of pig pickins and hole in the wall bbq joints, I always tell people that while the style of sauce is a point of contention among many North Carolinians, the true magic is in the meat and the way it is prepared. While I’ve had my share of extraordinary pork sholders, whole hog is still true bbq. As for comments about Asheville bbq….well i’ve lived in the are for 4 years now, and have yet to find any bbq that stacks up to what I grew up with. 12 Bones falls short and is my least favorite of the Asheville favorites….while the ribs may be good, the ‘cue is mediocre. Luella’s meat is inconsistent and if you do use the vinegar based sauce, beware. They go a little heavy on the fennel, which by the way is also applied to their pork butts before smoking. Fennel is good in italian sausage, but not sure about bbq. Okie Dokie’s is good enough to satisfy my craving….it is the most consistent in terms of flavor and moistness. All in all, eastern NC is still the best place to find NC bbq in the truest sense of the word.

constance jones January 21, 2010 at 1:59 pm

I live in Va. I would like the receipe eastern NC bbq

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